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Nowthen Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, August 22, 2023

Planning & Zoning

Tuesday, August 22, 2023 · 7:00 PM

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Minutes

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One-line summary

The Planning and Zoning Commission elected Jorgensen Vice Chairman, discussed the Gustafson subdivision concept and recommended Proposal A without an official vote, continued septic ordinance revisions, and approved routine meeting items.

What was on the agenda

9 items as recorded in the packet and minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A001Called to Order

    Called to order.

    Chair Ames called the meeting to order at 7:02 pm.

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    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)Called to Orderp. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)Chair Ames called the meeting to order at 7:02 pm.
  2. A002Pledge of Allegiance

    Pledge of Allegiance.

    Those assembled recited the pledge of allegiance.

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    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)· Pledge of Allegiancep. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)Those assembled recited the pledge of allegiance.
  3. A003Roll Call

    Roll call.

    All seven commissioners listed in the minutes were present.

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    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22). Roll Callp. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)Present: Ames, Carlson, Haapala, Jorgensen, Bies, Pearo, Lewis Also Present: Liaison Mayor Pilon, Planner Stockman, Admin. Asst. Donna Ogdahl, and City Administrator Lehner
  4. A004Approve/Amend August 22, 2023 agenda

    Approve or amend the August 22, 2023 meeting agenda.

    The Commission approved the August 22 agenda, approved the May 23 minutes with corrections to Haapala's name and the attendance list, and adjourned at 9:04 PM.

    The agenda was approved; the minutes' vote tally reads "FIVE (7) AYES."

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    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)· Approve/Amend tonights meeting agenda of August 22, 2023.p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (7) AYES.
  5. A005Approve/Amend May 23, 2023 minutes

    Approve or amend the May 23, 2023 meeting minutes.

    The Commission approved the August 22 agenda, approved the May 23 minutes with corrections to Haapala's name and the attendance list, and adjourned at 9:04 PM.

    The May 23, 2023 minutes were approved with corrections to Haapala's name and the attendance list; the minutes' vote tally reads "FIVE (7) AYES."

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    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)· Approve/Amend meeting minutes of May 23, 2023.p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY HAAPALA, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 23, 2023 after correcting the spelling of Haapala's name on page 2 and correcting those present on page 1 (Jorgensen listed twice). MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (7) AYES.
  6. A006Election of Planning and Zoning Commission Vice Chair

    Election of Planning and Zoning Commission Vice Chair.

    The Commission resolved the Vice Chair election that had been tied at the prior meeting. The six earlier votes stayed the same, Lewis voted for Jorgensen, and Jorgensen was elected Vice Chairman.

    Jorgensen was elected Vice Chairman after Lewis voted in favor of Jorgensen and the six votes from the previous meeting remained unchanged.

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    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)1\. 7:00 PM: Election of Planning and Zoning Commission Vice Chairp. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)ITEM 1. ELECTION OF PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION VICE CHAIR. Six votes from previous meeting unchanged; Lewis voted in favor of Jorgensen; Jorgensen is elected Vice Chairman.
  7. A007Gustafson conceptual subdivision plans

    Discuss two conceptual subdivision plans for the Gustafson property on Engen Boulevard, PIDs 20-33-25-21-0005 and 17-33-25-34-0003.

    The Commission discussed two concept layouts for the Gustafson family property near Bear Lake and Engen Boulevard. The applicants said the split was for family members, and the discussion focused on road placement, shared-driveway access, wetlands, tree removal, and the feasibility of a northerly road leg. No official vote was taken because the concept review was not binding, but the group recommended Proposal A with three lots using a single east-west future 205th Avenue alignment, with the western terminus moved north toward the section/property line.

    No official vote was taken, but the group recommended Proposal A with three lots accessed from a single east-west future 205th Avenue alignment, with the western terminus shifted north.

    • Gustafson subdivision
    Discussion only
    p. 22Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)Gustafson Conceptual Subdivision Plans</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Attachments:</td> <td>Regional Road Concept.pdf; 2023-8-1 Concept Proposal A.pdf; 2023-8-1 Concept</td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td>Proposal B.pdf</td> </tr> </table> Liz, I generallyp. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)ITEM 2. DISCUSSION: 20840 ENGEN BLVD; CONSIDER TWO CONCEPTUALSUBDIVISION PLANS FOR 35.47 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BEAR LAKE. PIN 20-33-25-21-0005 and 17-33-25-34-0003.p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)No official vote for conceptual plans, decision not binding but the group recommended Proposal A with three lots accessing from a single east-west street (future 205th Avenue) the western terminus of which should be moved north to be in line with the section/property line between 20465 and 20633 Tiger Street.
  8. A008Continued discussion of septic system ordinance updates

    Continue discussion of proposed septic system ordinance changes to reflect Minnesota 7080 rules.

    The Commission continued reviewing the draft septic ordinance update intended to reflect Minnesota 7080 rules. Discussion covered three-year pumping and inspection alternatives, septic-site square footage, inspection notice, commercial and industrial triggers, lot-split requirements, groundwater protection, unpaid inspection or pumping costs, wetland setbacks, holding tanks, homeowner installation, installer permits, and minor repairs that may not need permits. Stockman was directed to bring an updated draft to the next meeting.

    The Commission discussed the draft ordinance and directed Stockman to bring an updated version to the next meeting.

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    Discussion only
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)3\. 7:30 PM: Discussion, Continued - Consider Changes to the City's septic system ordinance pertaining to maintenance and general updates to reflect the MN 7080 rulesp. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)ITEM 3. DISCUSSION CONTINUED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S SEPTIC SYSTEM ORDINANCE TO REFLECT MN 7080 RULESp. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)Stockman was directed to bring an updated version of the draft ordinance to the next meeting.
  9. A009Adjourn

    Motion to adjourn.

    The Commission approved the August 22 agenda, approved the May 23 minutes with corrections to Haapala's name and the attendance list, and adjourned at 9:04 PM.

    The meeting adjourned at 9:04 PM.

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    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2023-08-22)Motion to Adjournp. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY JORGENSEN, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. SEVEN AYES. The meeting was adjourned at 9:04PM.

Motions and votes

3 motions on the record.

  • M001MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

    moved by Carlson, seconded by Haapala

    Passed

    FIVE (7) AYES.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (7) AYES.
  • M002MOTION BY HAAPALA, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 23, 2023 after correcting the spelling of Haapala's name on page 2 and correcting those present on page 1 (Jorgensen listed twice).

    moved by Haapala, seconded by Ames

    Passed

    FIVE (7) AYES.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY HAAPALA, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 23, 2023 after correcting the spelling of Haapala's name on page 2 and correcting those present on page 1 (Jorgensen listed twice). MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (7) AYES.
  • M003MOTION BY JORGENSEN, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN.

    moved by Jorgensen, seconded by Haapala

    Passed

    SEVEN AYES.

    p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)MOTION BY JORGENSEN, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. SEVEN AYES.

Prior history on this business

When someone referred back to earlier business, we found the matching prior discussion and tied it in here.

  • Six votes from previous meeting unchanged; Lewis voted in favor of Jorgensen; Jorgensen is elected Vice Chairman.

    What this is about
    The Vice Chair election carried over from the prior Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, where the vote had not been resolved.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)ITEM 1. ELECTION OF PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION VICE CHAIR. Six votes from previous meeting unchanged; Lewis voted in favor of Jorgensen; Jorgensen is elected Vice Chairman.

    Related history

    The records searched show a related Planning and Zoning Commission officer election, but not the one described in the cue. In the February 24, 2026 packet, the Commission selected officers for the February 23, 2026 meeting: Commissioner Haapala was selected Chair on a 4–2 roll-call vote, and Commissioner Pearo was selected Vice Chair on a 5–1 roll-call vote, with Commissioner Jorgensen voting against Pearo. The minutes note that Commissioner Lewis arrived at 7:07 p.m., after the Vice Chair vote. A later record also points to Pearo, not Jorgensen, as Vice Chair: at the March 24, 2026 meeting, the minutes identify “Vice Chairwoman Pearo” making a motion. The records I searched do not contain a prior unresolved Vice Chair election that carried over and was decided by Lewis voting for Jorgensen, nor do they show Jorgensen being elected Vice Chairman.

    • Feb 24, 2026## SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR <figure> </figure> Chairman Ames opened the floor for nominations for the Chair pos
    • Apr 14, 2026### Development Applications in Review Palomino Estates -- Kyle Roessler - 20930 St. Francis Blvd. · An application for
    • Mar 10, 2026Council.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The Cit
    • Feb 24, 2026Council.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The Cit
    • Mar 24, 2026APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION BY VICE CHAIRWOMAN PEARO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BIES TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SIX (6) AYES. M
  • DISCUSSION CONTINUED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S SEPTIC SYSTEM ORDINANCE TO REFLECT MN 7080 RULES

    What this is about
    The septic ordinance discussion was a continuation of earlier Commission work on ordinance changes tied to Minnesota 7080 rules.

    p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2023-08-22)ITEM 3. DISCUSSION CONTINUED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S SEPTIC SYSTEM ORDINANCE TO REFLECT MN 7080 RULES

    Related history

    The records I searched do not contain a prior Planning Commission discussion or decision matching this recollection about proposed septic system ordinance changes tied to Minnesota Rules Chapter 7080. The search results returned unrelated 2026 packet materials, including road assessment resolutions, plat/variance materials, a flag-lot CUP, and other packet pages, but nothing documenting earlier Commission work on the septic ordinance or a formal vote on those changes.

    • Apr 28, 2026CASWELL ENGINEERING CO. ENGINEERS & LAND SURVEYORS ## BIRCHWOOD ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS:
    • May 12, 2026## CITY OF NOWTHEN ANOKA COUNTY STATE OF MINNESOTA ## RESOLUTION NO. 2026-XX ## AMENDED RESOLUTION DECLARING COSTS TO BE
    • Apr 14, 2026# CITY OF NOWTHEN ANOKA COUNTY STATE OF MINNESOTA # RESOLUTION NO. 2026-XX # RESOLUTION DECLARING COSTS TO BE ASSESSED A
    • May 12, 2026## City of Nowthen Table of Contents <table> <tr> <td>Elected Officials and Administration</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <t
    • Apr 28, 2026CITY OF NOWTHEN ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FINDINGS & RECOMMENDATION ACCESSORY BUILDING VARI

Where this came up before

  1. Feb 24, 2026
    City Meeting

    ## SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR <figure> </figure> Chairman Ames opened the floor for nominations for the Chair position. Commissioner Bies nominated Commissioner Pearo. Commissioner Jorgensen no

    Doc## SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR <figure> </figure> Chairman Ames opened the floor for nominations for the Chair position. Commissioner Bies nominated Commissioner Pearo. Commissioner Jorgensen nominated Commissioner Haapala. A roll
  2. Apr 14, 2026
    City Meeting

    ### Development Applications in Review Palomino Estates -- Kyle Roessler - 20930 St. Francis Blvd. · An application for preliminary plat and a conditional use permit for a flag lot were submitted. The

    Doc### Development Applications in Review Palomino Estates -- Kyle Roessler - 20930 St. Francis Blvd. · An application for preliminary plat and a conditional use permit for a flag lot were submitted. These were approved by the Council at the
  3. Mar 10, 2026
    City Meeting

    Council.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The City Council may grant a variance from the regulations contained in this C

    DocCouncil.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The City Council may grant a variance from the regulations contained in this C
  4. Feb 24, 2026
    City Meeting

    Council.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The City Council may grant a variance from the regulations contained in this C

    DocCouncil.(Ordinance #2, adopted November 14, 2006; Ordinance 2013-03, adopted April 9, 2013) 10-9-6: VARIANCE: A. The City Council may grant a variance from the regulations contained in this C
  5. Mar 24, 2026
    City Meeting

    APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION BY VICE CHAIRWOMAN PEARO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BIES TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SIX (6) AYES. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 27, 2026, MEETING MINUTES. MOTION BY VICE CHA

    DocAPPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION BY VICE CHAIRWOMAN PEARO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BIES TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SIX (6) AYES. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 27, 2026, MEETING MINUTES. MOTION BY VICE CHAIRWOMAN PEARO, SECONDED BY COMMISSION

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