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Nowthen Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, November 23, 2021

Planning & Zoning

Tuesday, November 23, 2021 · 7:00 PM

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The Planning & Zoning Commission amended the agenda, held a public hearing and approved the Woodhaven preliminary and final plat, discussed possible commercial/industrial architectural standards and self-storage ordinance concepts, cancelled the December meeting, and adjourned.

What was on the agenda

10 items as recorded in the packet and minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A0Called to Order

    Meeting called to order at 7pm (per minutes).

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)Chair Ames called the meeting to order at 7pm

  2. A1Pledge of Allegiance

    Pledge was recited (per minutes and transcript).

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)Those assembled recited the Pledge of Allegiance.0:02i pledge allegiance to the light of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with

  3. A2Roll Call

    Roll call taken; Commissioner Schiller absent (per minutes).

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)Present: Commissioners Bies, Carlson, Haapala, Jorgenson, Pearo, Also Present: City Council Liaison Mayor Pilon, Planner Stockman, Interim City Administrator Boyles Absent: Commissioner Schiller0:26i'll take the roll call for tonight chairman ames here commissioner base here uh commissioner carlson here commissioner happily here commissioner jorgensen yeah commissioner pearl here commissioner sheldon he's absent uh planner stockman here okay and mayor ben here

  4. A3Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of November 23, 2021

    Agenda amendment to reflect that a public hearing is part of the meeting and to remove approval of the October 26, 2021 minutes.

    Agenda amended; motion carried (per minutes).

    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)· Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of November 23, 2021. · Approve/Amend meeting minutes of October 26, 2021.p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY BIES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF TONIGHTS MEETING AND WITH REMOVAL OF APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2021, MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

  5. A4Approve/Amend meeting minutes of October 26, 2021

    Removed from this meeting’s agenda per agenda-amendment motion.

    Removed from agenda (per minutes).

    No action
    p. 11Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)October 12, 2021 FIELD DATE: October 10, 2021 BK/PG: 2.07/54 DRAWN BY: CJR CHECKED BY: CAW DWG FILE: 21-0237 Prelim Plat FILE NO: 21-0237.00 REVISIONS: I hereby certify that this survey, plan, or report was prepared by me or under my directp. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY BIES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF TONIGHTS MEETING AND WITH REMOVAL OF APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2021, MINUTES.

  6. 1Woodhaven Preliminary and Final Plat - Old Viking Blvd. at Cleary Road (PID 23-33-25-24-0001 and 23-33-25-13-0002) Proposed nine (9) lot plat on 47.48 acres

    Public hearing and commission action on Woodhaven preliminary and final plat.

    The commission held a public hearing on the proposed nine-lot Woodhaven subdivision and heard comments about traffic/road capacity and trails, as well as neighborhood concerns about the Potassium Street cul-de-sac easement and whether a trail easement along Potassium should be vacated. After discussion of wetlands, right-of-way/snow storage, shared access/driveway setbacks, and future trail considerations along Old Viking, the commission approved both the preliminary and final plat in accordance with the planner and engineer recommendations and the public hearing record.

    Approved by motion; public hearing opened and closed (per minutes).

    • Woodhaven plat
    • trail easement
    • driveways / shared access
    • wetlands
    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)1. 7:00 PM: Woodhaven Preliminary and Final Plat - Old Viking Blvd. at Cleary Road. (PID 23-33-25- 24-0001 and 23-33-25-13-0002) Proposed nine (9) lot plat on 47.48 acres.p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)2\. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAN FOR WOODHAVEN LOCATED AT OLD VIKING BOULEVARD AND CLEARY ROADp. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY JORGENSON TO APPROVE BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT FOR WOODHAVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY PLANNER, ENGINEER AND FROM PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION CARRIED, SIX AYES.

  7. 2Discussion - Commercial/Industrial Architectural Standards Discuss possible ordinance changes applicable to business uses

    Discussion of separation-of-uses concepts and self-storage ordinance examples (Coon Rapids and Otsego), and direction for planner to bring back proposed performance/architectural standards.

    The commission discussed possible zoning ordinance changes tied to the city’s moratorium on commercial/industrial development, including the idea of separating like uses and examples from Coon Rapids and Otsego regarding self-storage definitions and performance standards. The minutes reflect that the city attorney was consulted and raised concerns about potential discrimination and litigation risk, and the commission’s discussion focused on whether to use separation standards versus performance criteria, with the planner to bring back proposed performance and architectural standards for consideration at the next meeting.

    Discussion only; planner to bring back proposed performance and architectural standards for next meeting (per minutes).

    • commercial/industrial standards
    • zoning ordinance
    • self-storage
    Discussion only
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)2. 7:30 PM: Discussion - Commercial/Industrial Architectural Standards Discuss possible ordinance changes applicable to business uses.p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)Planner Stockman stated that the city adopted a moratorium on commercial/industrial development to allow time for a review of the city's zoning ordinance as it relates to business uses. ... The essential question is does the city regulate through separation standards or instead use performance criteria as it has histor…p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)that the city planner would bring back proposed performance and architectural standards for commission consideration at the next meeting.

  8. 3Cancellation of December meeting

    The commission voted to cancel the December meeting due to the holidays and lack of agenda items.

    December meeting cancelled by motion (per minutes).

    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)3. Cancellation of December meeting.p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY PLANNING COMMISSIONER BIES SECOND BY PEARO TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER MEETING IN LIGHT OF THE HOLIDAYS AND LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

  9. 4Upcoming Projects at January Meeting: Toft 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat - 7 industrial lots, 8 residential lots

    Upcoming item noted; January meeting also to include election of chair and vice chair.

    Listed as upcoming; no action taken at this meeting (per minutes and agenda).

    • Toft 2nd Addition
    Discussion only
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)Upcoming Projects at January Meeting: · Toft 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat - 7 industrial lots, 8 residential lotsp. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)5\. POTENTIAL UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR JANUARY MEETING Toft Second Addition Preliminary Plat for seven industrial and eight residential lots. The chair reminded the commission that the January Meeting will include election of chair and vice chair.

  10. A5Motion to Adjourn

    Adjourned at 8:51pm by motion (per minutes).

    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2021-11-23)Motion to Adjournp. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JORGENSON SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED FIVE AYES. The meeting adjourned at 8:51pm.

Motions and votes

4 motions on the record.

  • M1MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY BIES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF TONIGHTS MEETING AND WITH REMOVAL OF APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2021, MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    Exact transcript text

    MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY BIES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF TONIGHTS MEETING AND WITH REMOVAL OF APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2021, MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    moved by CHAIR AMES, seconded by BIES

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY BIES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF TONIGHTS MEETING AND WITH REMOVAL OF APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2021, MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

  • M2MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY JORGENSON TO APPROVE BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT FOR WOODHAVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY PLANNER, ENGINEER AND FROM PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION CARRIED, SIX AYES.

    Exact transcript text

    MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY JORGENSON TO APPROVE BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT FOR WOODHAVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY PLANNER, ENGINEER AND FROM PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION CARRIED, SIX AYES.

    moved by CHAIR AMES, seconded by JORGENSON

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED, SIX AYES.

    p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY CHAIR AMES SECOND BY JORGENSON TO APPROVE BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT FOR WOODHAVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY PLANNER, ENGINEER AND FROM PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION CARRIED, SIX AYES.

  • M3MOTION BY PLANNING COMMISSIONER BIES SECOND BY PEARO TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER MEETING IN LIGHT OF THE HOLIDAYS AND LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    Exact transcript text

    MOTION BY PLANNING COMMISSIONER BIES SECOND BY PEARO TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER MEETING IN LIGHT OF THE HOLIDAYS AND LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    moved by BIES, seconded by PEARO

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

    p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY PLANNING COMMISSIONER BIES SECOND BY PEARO TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER MEETING IN LIGHT OF THE HOLIDAYS AND LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS MOTION CARRIED SIX AYES.

  • M4MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JORGENSON SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED FIVE AYES.

    Exact transcript text

    MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JORGENSON SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED FIVE AYES.

    moved by JORGENSON, seconded by HAAPALA

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED FIVE AYES.

    p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2021-11-23)MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JORGENSON SECOND BY HAAPALA TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED FIVE AYES.

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  • 0:02 i pledge allegiance to the light of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with
  • 0:13 liberty and justice the next thing we're going to take the roll call now
  • 0:26 i'll take the roll call for tonight chairman ames here commissioner base here uh commissioner carlson here
  • 0:36 commissioner happily here commissioner jorgensen yeah commissioner pearl here commissioner sheldon he's absent uh planner stockman here
  • 0:48 okay and mayor ben here okay the the first thing on the agenda we're gonna
  • 0:56 uh before we approve we want to amend the uh tonight's meeting agenda the first item should have been a public
  • 1:05 hearing tonight it wasn't listed here for the public hearing and we'll we'll add this to the uh approve them in tonight's meeting agenda november 23rd
  • 1:16 2021. somebody like to make this motion with this amendment mr chair yes um approval of the meeting minutes from october needs to be removed since those
  • 1:25 were not included in the packet so my apologies for that uh it was noticed appropriately in the paper for the public hearing
  • 1:36 okay so the second thing item there is we're going to add that to the first one that's going to be removed
  • 1:45 so we're going to do this well i'll make the motion then that we approve this with the amendments of the removing the the one down below here and also for uh
  • 1:56 uh yeah i'm forgetting what the other one was uh public hearing public hearing would be added on a second okay second
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