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Nowthen Joint of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission meeting, November 25, 2018

Planning & Zoning

Sunday, November 25, 2018

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The City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission held a joint meeting to discuss the 2040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan (including annexation/settlement impacts, commercial/industrial areas, frontage roads, and parks/trails) and took public comments before adjourning.

What was on the agenda

11 items as recorded in the minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A1Call to Order / Pledge of Allegiance / Roll Call

    Discussion only
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Meeting Called to Order at 7:00 PM by Mayor Pilon. Pledge of Allegiance Roll Callp. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Present: Dale Ames, PZ Chairman Harold Jorgenson Barry Wagner Jason Alders Robert Schiller Kelly Pearo Kristin Moan Jeff Pilon, Mayor Randy Bettinger Dan Breyen Mary Rainville Paul Reighard Others: Planner Liz Stockman
  2. A2Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda (September 25, 2018) (including moving public comments)

    Agenda amended so public comments were at the end of the meeting.

    Approved
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018 - Motion by Pilon; 2nd by Rainville. Motion Carried. Amend #1 to be Public Comments at the end of the meeting.
  3. A3Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes

    Approved
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes - Motion by Alders; 2nd by Ames. Motion Carried.
  4. A42040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan Discussion

    Discussion included detachment/annexation settlement terms, commercial/industrial expansion, frontage road plan, park & trail amendments, and community perspectives.

    The Council and Planning & Zoning Commission discussed the required 10-year update to the Comprehensive Plan and the schedule for submissions and review, noting the plan had been put on hold due to an annexation request and that an extension was approved through December 2019. They discussed a timeline that included submitting the Comp Plan to the Met Council by July 31, 2019, a mandatory six-month review by neighboring communities, and Met Council approval by August 21, 2020 with zoning changes following.

    • 2040 comprehensive plan
    Discussion only
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)## 2. 2040 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DISCUSSION
  5. A4aDetachment/Annexation Area Settlement Agreement (2 acre minimum lot size and average 2 acre lot size)

    The Council and Planning & Zoning Commission discussed the required 10-year update to the Comprehensive Plan and the schedule for submissions and review, noting the plan had been put on hold due to an annexation request and that an extension was approved through December 2019. They discussed a timeline that included submitting the Comp Plan to the Met Council by July 31, 2019, a mandatory six-month review by neighboring communities, and Met Council approval by August 21, 2020 with zoning changes following.

    The joint body discussed the settlement agreement terms for the detachment/annexation area, including a 2-acre minimum and average 2-acre lot size, and reviewed the annexation area breakdown (commercial and residential acreages). During public comment, residents urged broader application of 2-acre zoning (potentially citywide) and described how changing density could affect land value and development opportunities; the planner noted there are multiple options to extend 2-acre lot zoning to other areas.

    • annexation settlement
    • 2-acre lots
    Discussion only
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)a. Detachment/Annexation Area Settlement Agreement (2 acre minimum lot size and average 2 acre lot size)p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Put on hold when annexation request was submitted; extension approved through Dec. 2019p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Annexation area was 558.6 acres - Red box is designated to be 55 acres Commercial area. Purple striped area shows existing commercial/industrial from the 2030 Land Use map; 503.6 acres will be residential.p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Timeline: o Nothing can happen before approvals on City, County and State levels ☐ o Comp Plan submitted to Met Council by July 31, 2019 ☐ o 6 month mandatory review by neighboring communities ☐ o Comp Plan approved by Met Council by Aug 21, 2020; City Zoning changes in place; ☐ 6 months to 1 year
  6. A4bCommercial / Industrial District Expansion Areas or Changes

    • commercial/industrial expansion
    Discussion only
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)b. Commercial / Industrial District Expansion Areas or Changes Discussion:p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Land owners will be asked if they want to participate in Commercial/Lt. industrial expansionp. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Just because an area is rezoned, doesn't mean that land owners cannot continue to use it as it is being used currently.
  7. A4cFrontage Road Plan

    Participants discussed whether to keep or eliminate the frontage road plan, with a councilmember recommending removal and suggesting the county handle it, arguing it has driven developers away. A public commenter agreed and stated the frontage road plan had deterred prospective residential or commercial developers when raised.

    • frontage roads
    Discussion only
    p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)### c. Frontage Road Plan Discussion:p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> 7 quadrants remaining that are included for discussion about frontage roads, whether to update and keep in 2040 Plan or eliminate.
  8. A4dPark & Trail Amendments

    The group discussed park and trail amendments, including reshaping a park search area in the northwest corner and noting a regional trail route through Nowthen. In discussion, a councilmember expressed concern about too many miles of trail to maintain and urged focusing on manageable plans, while another member noted that trails need to be shown on the map to be eligible for future grant opportunities; a public commenter questioned pursuing grants for trails the city could not afford to build or maintain.

    • parks and trails
    Discussion only
    p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)### d. Park & Trail Amendments Discussion:p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> PR Committee reviewed existing layout and updated the search area in NW corner of City, anticipating possible access from the west. Reshaped search area along brook. Hoping to get canoe or walking access.p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)> Regional trail goes through Nowthen; Interesting to see how it will come to pass.
  9. A4eCommunity Perspectives

    Council/P&Z discussed getting resident feedback and specific policy preferences; members discussed frontage roads and trails.

    Participants discussed whether to keep or eliminate the frontage road plan, with a councilmember recommending removal and suggesting the county handle it, arguing it has driven developers away. A public commenter agreed and stated the frontage road plan had deterred prospective residential or commercial developers when raised.

    The group discussed park and trail amendments, including reshaping a park search area in the northwest corner and noting a regional trail route through Nowthen. In discussion, a councilmember expressed concern about too many miles of trail to maintain and urged focusing on manageable plans, while another member noted that trails need to be shown on the map to be eligible for future grant opportunities; a public commenter questioned pursuing grants for trails the city could not afford to build or maintain.

    • community feedback
    • frontage roads
    • parks and trails
    Discussion only
    p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)### e. Community Perspectives Discussion: City Governing bodies want feedback from residents. Current policies support:p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Pilon opened it up to the Council or PZ members' comments. Bettinger suggested removing the Frontage Road plan. Let the County deal with that plan. We've chased away many developers because of the Frontage Road plan. He also thinks we have too many miles of trail on the park & trail plan - hard to maintain and we need …
  10. A5Floor Items / Public Comments

    Public comments were taken at the end of the meeting, per the agenda amendment.

    The joint body discussed the settlement agreement terms for the detachment/annexation area, including a 2-acre minimum and average 2-acre lot size, and reviewed the annexation area breakdown (commercial and residential acreages). During public comment, residents urged broader application of 2-acre zoning (potentially citywide) and described how changing density could affect land value and development opportunities; the planner noted there are multiple options to extend 2-acre lot zoning to other areas.

    Participants discussed whether to keep or eliminate the frontage road plan, with a councilmember recommending removal and suggesting the county handle it, arguing it has driven developers away. A public commenter agreed and stated the frontage road plan had deterred prospective residential or commercial developers when raised.

    The group discussed park and trail amendments, including reshaping a park search area in the northwest corner and noting a regional trail route through Nowthen. In discussion, a councilmember expressed concern about too many miles of trail to maintain and urged focusing on manageable plans, while another member noted that trails need to be shown on the map to be eligible for future grant opportunities; a public commenter questioned pursuing grants for trails the city could not afford to build or maintain.

    • public comment
    • 2-acre lots
    • frontage roads
    • parks and trails
    Discussion only
    PDFJoint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)1. FLOOR ITEMS/PUBLIC COMMENTS - moved to end of the meeting.p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)3. FLOOR ITEMS/PUBLIC COMMENTS - moved to end of the meeting.p. 2Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Larry Skogquist, 6840 213th Ave. - He has lived in Burns/Nowthen for 65 years, and is the 4th generation that has called Nowthen "Home," spanning over 125 years.p. 3Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Debbie Mahutga, 7560 Viking Blvd NW - She owns 80 acres, and now that she is retired and probably won't be farming anymore, she too would like her land to be rezoned to 2 acre lots.p. 3Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Dennis Berg, 18111 Nowthen Blvd NW - He just came tonight to listen, so is not too well prepared. Looking around the room, he thinks he is the only signature left on the original Comp Plan and the original Zoning Ordinance after the Comp Plan.
  11. A6Adjourn

    Adjourned at 8:02 PM.

    Approved
    p. 4Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Motion to Adjourn by Rainville; 2nd by Breyen. Meeting Adjourned at 8:02 PM.

Motions and votes

3 motions on the record.

  • M1Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018.

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    Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018

    moved by Pilon, seconded by Rainville

    Passed
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018 - Motion by Pilon; 2nd by Rainville. Motion Carried. Amend #1 to be Public Comments at the end of the meeting.
  • M2Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes.

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    Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes

    moved by Alders, seconded by Ames

    Passed
    p. 1Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes - Motion by Alders; 2nd by Ames. Motion Carried.
  • M3Motion to Adjourn.

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    Motion to Adjourn

    moved by Rainville, seconded by Breyen

    Outcome unrecorded
    p. 4Joint Meeting of City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission — 2018 11-25 Joint Meeting Minutes (2018-11-25)Motion to Adjourn by Rainville; 2nd by Breyen. Meeting Adjourned at 8:02 PM.

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