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Nowthen Planning & Zoning meeting, August 22, 2017

Planning & Zoning

Tuesday, August 22, 2017

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Agenda

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What was on the agenda.

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Minutes

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One-line summary

The Planning & Zoning Commission approved the agenda and prior minutes, then heard multiple continued public hearings and voted to recommend approval of an outdoor storage IUP for 20090 England Street, a home-extended-business IUP for 7140 Old Viking Boulevard (with withdrawals/conditions discussed), and a preliminary/final plat for a three-lot split at 19447 Nowthen Boulevard; a later CUP item for 19950 England Street was introduced and discussed (gate/fence/outdoor storage limits) in the available transcript excerpt.

What was on the agenda

8 items as recorded in the meeting transcript, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A1Call to order / roll call

    Roll call was conducted and members were marked present in the transcript.

    Discussion only
    0:25The first thing we're going to have is a roll call by the clerk. Dale Eames. Present. Jeff Pila. Present. Kelly Pero. Here. Barry Wagner. Here. Walter Cleet. Here. Kristen Mullen. Harold Jorgensen. Present. John Sutilak. Liz Stockman. Present.

  2. A2Approve/amend meeting agenda (August 22, 2017)

    Motion carried by voice vote (ayes heard; no nays recorded).

    Approved
    1:26The next thing on the agenda is we're going to approve or amend tonight's meeting agenda of August 22, 2017. Do we have a motion to approve this? ... Commissioner Perro made a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Commissioner Wagner makes a second. ... All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.

  3. A3Approve/amend prior meeting minutes (July 25, 2015 P&Z meeting minutes)

    Motion carried by voice vote (ayes heard; no nays recorded).

    Approved
    2:10The next thing we're going to do is approve or amend the July 25, 2015 planning and zoning meeting minutes. Do we have a motion to approve this? I'll make a motion. Okay. Commissioner Perro made a motion. Do we have a second? I'll make a second. Any discussion? Seeing no discussion, I'll call for the vote. All in favor…

  4. A4Business from the floor

    No one came forward during the floor item.

    No action
    2:45The next thing is the floor item. Is there anybody on the floor that wants to bring anything up from the floor? ... Nothing back there. Okay, seeing that, we'll go on to the first public hearing.

  5. PH1Public hearing (continued): Jay Helleberg / Celsius 3 LLC — IUP for outdoor storage — 20090 England Street (PIN 20-33-25-42-0006)

    Interim use permit request to allow outdoor storage on a two-acre industrial property, with screening/fence and landscaping; discussion included defining allowed outdoor storage and conditions (licensed/operable; on aggregate; within depicted area; strike item 6).

    The commission continued a public hearing on Jay Helleberg/Celsius 3 LLC’s interim use permit for outdoor storage at 20090 England Street and focused on screening (an 8-foot solid wood fence with landscaping) and enforceable limits on what may be stored outside. They discussed concerns about the site becoming a junkyard, heard a neighbor’s visibility concerns, and then voted to recommend approval with conditions discussed, including that vehicles be licensed and operable, stored on the aggregate surface only as depicted on the current site plan, and with item 6 removed from the findings because the tiny-home display would not encroach on the drainage easement.

    Commission voted to recommend approval with findings/conditions discussed (voice vote; no tally).

    • Celsius 3 LLC outdoor storage IUP (20090 England Street)
    Approved
    3:00It's a request by Jay Helleberg and Celsius 3 LLC for an interim use permit to allow outdoor storage on a two-acre industrial property owned at 20090 England Street, pin number 20-33-25-42-0006. And what we're going to do is the public hearing is continued from the last time.3:47The city council approved the temporary storage until this meeting so Mr. Helleberg could get going on his fence, which he needs to secure the property prior to building construction. ... So the fence is 8-foot solid wood fence and it will have some landscaping around not only the outside but the inside.6:02My name is Jay Heidelberg, 290 Iguana Street, Northwest. ... we had originally spoken about being able to park on the 40-foot easement but since marking everything out, we're just going to move everything back 10 feet to the west... ... Item 6 on the findings. ... So item 6 can be stricken from the findings.17:59I'm assuming all of the yellow and gold area on your presentation here is all outdoor storage, but nothing's really been addressed in outdoor storage. ... You need to make sure you define it here so that nobody questions it later and throws it back to the council.31:35a good way to control what he's speaking of is just to state that everything has to be licensed and operable. ... that all the boats, RVs, whatever, have to be licensed and operable, including the trailers.59:13Move to recommend approval with the findings of facts that are listed, including the discussion of the operable and licensed vehicles on the aggregate surface only. And minus item 6. ... Seconded. ... All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. This will go to the city council, and the city council will make t…

  6. PH2Public hearing (continued): Tony and Denise Elfeld — IUP for home and extended business — 7140 Old Viking Boulevard (PIN 22-33-33-0010)

    Interim use permit to allow a home and extended business; discussion included withdrawals of live auctions and used car dealer license request, hours of operation, signage size, neighbor driveway documentation, and limiting auto sales.

    For Tony and Denise Elfeld’s interim use permit to allow a home and extended business at 7140 Old Viking Boulevard, the planner and applicant described changes since the prior hearing, including Tony Elfeld withdrawing his requests related to live auctions and a used car dealer license. The commission discussed operating hours, traffic flow, signage size questions, driveway encroachment documentation from the neighbor, and limits around vehicle sales and other business details, then voted to forward the item to the City Council with the changes discussed.

    Motion carried to send/bring to City Council with discussed conditions/changes (voice vote; no tally).

    • Elfeld home extended business IUP (7140 Old Viking Blvd)
    Approved
    1:00:46The next public hearing is a request by Tony and Denise Elfeld for an inter-use permit to allow a home and extended business on five acres of property owned at 7140 Old Viking Boulevard, pen number 22-33-330010.1:04:31I'm Tony Elfeld at 7140 Old Viking Boulevard. As far as the used car dealer license, I withdraw that. I'm not going to ask for that, because I don't need it. ... As far as live auctions, I'm withdrawing that from my request as well. ... out of respect for my neighbor's positions on things, I withdraw that too.1:12:59I would say 8 to 8 7 days a week1:25:22I think everybody wants a copy or do well we can talk about it after we're done here but he ain't discussion on this motion we got on the floor we all know what it's about so motion by Kelly ii by Barry yes okay further discussion CNN will call for the vote all favor say aye aye opposed motion carries come to the City …

  7. PH3Public hearing (continued): Jimin Green Inc — preliminary and final plat to subdivide into two new five-acre lots (three total lots) on an 80-acre property — 19447 Nowthen Boulevard (PINs listed in hearing)

    Preliminary and final plan approval for a three-lot split; discussion referenced engineering review (including an August 21 report), wetland delineation, cul-de-sac length, outlot configuration, and limiting future principal structures without further approvals.

    The commission reviewed a continued public hearing for Jimin Green Inc’s preliminary and final plat to create two new five-acre lots (three total lots) from an 80-acre property at 19447 Nowthen Boulevard. Staff described updates since the prior month (including grading plan completion, wetland delineation, cul-de-sac changes, and engineering review items) and then the commission voted to send the plat forward to the City Council, subject to the engineer’s August 21 report and minor changes referenced in discussion.

    Motion carried to send to City Council subject to the engineer’s August 21 report (voice vote; no tally).

    • Jimin Green Inc three-lot plat (19447 Nowthen Blvd)
    Approved
    1:34:59its continued this comes public hearing it has to do on the request by Jimin green ink for luminary and final plan approved to allow the subdivision of two new five acre lots three total Lots 80 acre property owned it's one nine four four seven now then woven up Boulevard1:38:46we can just refer to this August 21st engineering report in our findings1:44:04I'll make a motion that we send us the console with the planner and also from our engineer engineer once more more informational it has to do with the Calvert public great just say subject to the engineers August 21st report1:46:19anybody second of all second of motion commissioners Jerguson seconded any any further discussion1:48:12seeing that I'll call for long favor say aye pose motion carried

  8. PH4Public hearing: Josh Peterson — CUP/IUP for multiple buildings on a single parcel; two new storage buildings and IUP for outdoor storage — 19950 England Street

    Request included a revised plan (building width change, gate location, fencing considerations) and proposed outdoor storage areas limited to a maximum of five vehicles; discussion in excerpt centered on gate type (swing vs sliding) and security/screening implications.

    The commission began a public hearing on Josh Peterson’s request involving multiple buildings on a single parcel, two new storage buildings, and outdoor storage at 19950 England Street. Staff explained revisions to the plan and noted outdoor storage areas labeled for a maximum of five vehicles; discussion in the available excerpt centered on gate placement and whether a sliding gate might work better than a swinging gate given limited setback and driveway width, plus how fencing/security would affect units facing Iguana Street. No final action on this request appears in the provided transcript excerpt.

    The provided transcript excerpt ends during discussion; no motion/vote on this item appears in the bundle segment provided.

    • Josh Peterson storage buildings and outdoor storage (19950 England Street)
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:47:07the next public hearing is a request by Josh Peterson for condition use permit the lot of multiple buildings on a single partial in addition of two new storage buildings and the intern use permit to allow outdoor storage for a four acre property owned at 199 5-0 England Street1:50:48he's adding the outdoor storage areas as the dotted lines one is sort of in the middle and one is on the far eastern side you'll see so it says outdoor storage area for a maximum of five vehicles within the outlined areas so here we are specifying a number he has agreed to that1:53:40the gate and whatnot is kind of still up in the air for the most part yes I do envision it being an automatic gate where everyone will have a fob ... There is an option to have a gate that would slide back and forth rather than open like a in this fashion that's shown here that was my original intention but it could al…

Motions and votes

5 motions on the record.

  • M1I'll make a motion to approve it.

    moved by Commissioner Perro, seconded by Commissioner Wagner

    Passed

    Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded.

    1:40Do we have a motion to approve this? I'll make a motion to approve it. Okay. Commissioner Perro made a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Commissioner Wagner makes a second. ... All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.

  • M2I'll make a motion.

    moved by Commissioner Perro

    Passed

    Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Seconder not identified by name in transcript excerpt.

    2:10Do we have a motion to approve this? I'll make a motion. Okay. Commissioner Perro made a motion. Do we have a second? I'll make a second. ... All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.

  • M3Move to recommend approval with the findings of facts that are listed, including the discussion of the operable and licensed vehicles on the aggregate surface only. And minus item 6.

    Exact transcript text

    Move to recommend approval with the findings of facts that are listed, including the discussion of the operable and licensed vehicles on the aggregate surface only. And minus item 6.

    Passed

    Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Mover and seconder not identified by name in transcript excerpt.

    59:13Move to recommend approval with the findings of facts that are listed, including the discussion of the operable and licensed vehicles on the aggregate surface only. And minus item 6. ... Seconded. ... All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.

  • M4I'll make a motion that we send us the console with the planner and also from our engineer once more informational it has to do with the Calvert public great just say subject to the engineers August 21st report.

    Exact transcript text

    I'll make a motion that we send us the console with the planner and also from our engineer engineer once more more informational it has to do with the Calvert public great just say subject to the engineers August 21st report

    seconded by commissioners Jerguson

    Passed

    Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Mover not identified by name in transcript excerpt.

    1:44:04I'll make a motion that we send us the console with the planner and also from our engineer engineer once more more informational it has to do with the Calvert public great just say subject to the engineers August 21st report1:46:19commissioners Jerguson seconded1:48:12seeing that I'll call for long favor say aye pose motion carried

  • M5I'll make a motion my motion will include the changes that we have been changed per year by vehicles boats with square foot saying maximum also what they being able to hit and sell gun and guns like a good license is gonna check it out.

    Exact transcript text

    I'll make a motion my motion will include the changes that we have been changed per year by vehicles boats with square foot saying maximum also what they being able to hit and sell gun and guns like a good license is gonna check it out

    moved by Kelly, seconded by Barry

    Passed

    Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded.

    1:29:52I'll make a motion my motion will include the changes that we have been changed per year by vehicles boats with square foot saying maximum also what they being able to hit and sell gun and guns like a good license is gonna check it out1:34:14motion by Kelly ii by Barry yes ... all favor say aye aye opposed motion carries come to the City Council meeting

Sources

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  • 0:19 the first thing we're going to have is
  • 0:21 the roll call next thing we'll have a
  • 0:46 turkey the meeting policy the agenda is printed or amended will be followed so all necessary and needed actions by the commission will be addressed the agenda
  • 0:56 can be amended by proper motion second
  • 1:07 state your name and address for the record and third you will have no more than three minutes to state your time at your concern copies of the agenda that we have which are available on the back table please
  • 1:16 sign in and turn cell phones off okay the next thing on the agenda is we're gonna approve or amend tonight's meeting
  • 1:26 agenda of August 22 2017 we have a motion to prove this I'll make the
  • 1:35 motion okay Commissioner Perl made the motion do we have a second second mister wait
  • 1:43 you're making a second are there any questions CNN I'll call for a vote all in favor
  • 1:58 say aye opposed motion carries the next thing we're going to do is approve or
  • 2:06 amend the July 25th 2015 planning and
  • 2:10 zoning meeting minutes okay
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