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Nowthen City Council Workshop meeting, June 8, 2017

City Council

Thursday, June 8, 2017

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At the June 8, 2017 workshop, the council discussed stormwater, Rademacher development requests, facility rental fees, a minor subdivision ordinance change, code enforcement, Old Viking road funding, finance items, recycling center bids, budget workshops, and declined to discuss a late culvert memo.

What was on the agenda

14 items as recorded in the minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A1Call to order, pledge, and agenda addition

    Workshop opening and request to add a council item on a culvert replacement cost memo.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • meeting opening
    • culvert replacement memo
    Outcome unrecorded
    0:00public which is had one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all start a workshop Thursday June 8 can we open what they hit mr. Muir was overrated prior to starting with the agenda I'm wondering if we could add one item to the agenda under council items that would be 5c and it would be discussion o…
  2. A2Stormwater program update

    Stormwater permit update and preparation for the required annual public meeting.

    The council reviewed the city’s stormwater permit status and the annual requirement to hold a public meeting so residents can comment on the stormwater program.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • stormwater program
    Outcome unrecorded
    2:03just kind of business as usual we're in the fourth year of a five-year permit so nothing has really changed in the past four years this is a requirement of our permit with the state and just require that we annually we at least hold one public meeting and give the public an opportunity to comment on our stormwater prog…
  3. A3Rademacher conditional use permit and setback deviation discussion

    Discussion of Rademacher conditional use permit items involving fuel sales, parking setback, driveway access, drainage, county review, grading on city park property, and tree replacement.

    The council discussed unresolved drainage, access, county-review, grading, setback, and tree-replacement questions tied to Rademacher’s conditional use permit and setback requests; the workshop discussion indicated the item would likely wait for county and engineering answers.

    minutes not available in this bundle; transcript discussion said the item was likely to be tabled pending county and drainage answers

    • Rademacher CUP
    • drainage
    • county review
    • tree replacement
    Outcome unrecorded
    3:49conditional use permit this one man Tom okker answers else's breath deviation from media five foot setback mr. Muir but I know there was a lot of questions at Planning and Zoning regarding the trees and the county's response to the roads and I was just curious if we heard anything had any updates on that nothing yet fr…20:43there is it there's two outstanding issues drainage in than the access and also we have to have answered before we can go all right you know this one for God like their safety it sounds like without those answers to tell the world we'll be needing them to wait for those answers and likely to be tabled again
  4. A4Fee code amendment discussion

    Discussion of fee code language for City Hall rentals, senior and nonprofit use, government groups, political groups, funerals, and park concession stand nonresident fees.

    The council discussed clarifying who qualifies for no-charge City Hall use and how fees should apply to residents, nonresidents, seniors, funerals, government groups, political groups, and nonprofit groups active in the city.

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    • fee code
    • facility rentals
    Outcome unrecorded
    30:42one of the questions that came up with the plan is owning many exhibition the there wasn't clarity prior to this it just said anybody's 62 or older got free rental of this sale and we realize that could be anybody in the county anybody in the state it wasn't didn't define it they were residents that got that and not th…38:35I do think we need to clean up the independent nonprofit groups not a part of city government as a way to say that that's probably better than like you said it before active within the city but not part of city government yes anything else on the piece
  5. A5Rademacher/Reisler comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning discussion

    Informational discussion on Rademacher and Reisler comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning for a possible gas station, liquor store, business park area, and residential buffer.

    The council reviewed whether a 10-acre Rademacher gas station and liquor store request should proceed alone or be expanded with Reisler’s larger nearby land concept for a business park and residential buffer.

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    • Rademacher-Reisler rezoning
    • comprehensive plan
    • business park
    Outcome unrecorded
    39:17Rademacher race ler comp plan amendment and rezoning informational discussion mr. mayor if I'm right background fine tell really Seoul started out as 28 acre piece on dynasty race ler with mister Rademacher wishing purchase penny furs to construct the gas station and liquor store so the comprehensive plan amendment mor…41:32one option since I have not noticed the newspaper yet it has to be in tomorrow one option would be to submit an amended application if mr. Rademacher were okay with it to include the larger area and then notice the paper for those parcels instead of just a single person so that is an option but in general the intent is…
  6. A6Minor subdivision and lot reconfiguration ordinance discussion

    Discussion of changing the minor subdivision and lot reconfiguration process so simple lot splits could be handled administratively after Planning and Zoning review and ordinance changes.

    Council members supported exploring an ordinance change so routine minor subdivisions and lot reconfigurations could be handled administratively, with Planning and Zoning to discuss it before formal ordinance drafting.

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    • minor subdivision ordinance
    • lot splits
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:12:56minor subdivision I mean motley reconfiguring lot split mr. mayor we been here laughing I think we should move forward and change our ordinance to make down so they're done to administrative leave the end the discussion this man comes on record I agree with that as well again you know what I hear most about it Narcisse…1:14:21we would agree at this point on Tuesday direct staff was to prepare this Republic hearing Planning and Zoning follow hearing in and then bring it up to the next cone coming correct just one yet we're going to be behind a month though because we're going to miss price Carol's deadline for the publication so we'll take i…
  7. A7Code enforcement: online auction business and interim use permit

    Code enforcement discussion about a residential online auction business, customer pickup traffic, neighborhood complaints, and whether an interim use permit should be pursued.

    The council discussed neighborhood complaints about pickup traffic from a residential online auction business and advised that an interim use permit could protect the operator and set public conditions for the business.

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    • code enforcement
    • online auction business
    • interim use permit
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:15:22he's got a nice big building now but his neighbors are not happy because of the vehicles coming and going so I was struggling to you know I guess the first inclination is well yeah we consider this a business so we put them through the IEP process but I don't know that that's I mean other than limiting the number of da…1:27:26I think the distinction here - is this properties in a commercial district you're now often residential and that's why the in time use permit factors in is you're you're doing something here you've got a home-based business in a residential area and so it does set conditions by which you agree it's like a run your busi…
  8. A8Code enforcement: Springer property update

    Discussion of a problem property associated with Springer, potential sale, trespassing, shooting, bonfire activity, possible fencing, grading needs, and possible open space or park dedication.

    Staff updated the council on efforts to force a decision on a potential sale of the Springer property, where trespassing, shooting, bonfires, and grading restoration were concerns, and noted a possible buyer might fence the property and preserve open space.

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    • code enforcement
    • Springer property
    • open space
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:30:04I did talk to Linda Wilbur and she had loved horses Serge is very ill on her deathbed and the other one is the one causing the most problems that is resisting the sale they had a couple offers one was verbal and then the neighbor actually increased his offer and so I she stated that he was the top bidder right now and …1:32:09it's very close to his home and the shooting and the different stuff going on back there's there's a bonfire back there couple weeks ago it's unnerving to consider the restoration I needs to be done back there from the mining yeah absolutely there's quite a extensive amount of grading that needs to be done as far as lo…
  9. A9Old Viking Boulevard and road assessment policy discussion

    Discussion of Old Viking Boulevard and broader road funding, including assessments, levy options, feasibility study, pavement overlay, and future municipal state aid eligibility.

    The council debated whether road work such as Old Viking Boulevard should be paid through assessments, a levy, or a combination, and discussed a feasibility study and future policy meeting to compare project types and cost splits.

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    • Old Viking Boulevard
    • road assessments
    • levy
    • road maintenance
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:34:29I have is you know we have we have had conversations about roads and what not how to assess and how to pay for them you know it's just again something that we are so we're looking at you know the residents who are on old biking to pay the full brunt amount or is where do we really really need to look at a different mea…1:42:40old Viking is kind of designated as a collector role we have a few in the city that could meet that but once our population reaches 5,000 will be eligible for municipal state aid money and that would be one of the roads that we could use that money also rules like old biking the salt anything that's more more more than…
  10. A10Finance report and requests for council action

    Finance report and council action items, including water testing, EDA checking account, donations for fire radios, liquor licenses, July 3 office closure, park coverage, dirt work, capital planning assistance, and temporary office coverage.

    The council reviewed finance-related questions and upcoming action items including water testing, fire radio donations, licenses, July 3 office closure coverage, dirt work, capital planning assistance, and short-term office coverage.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • finance report
    • fire radios
    • city office closure
    • capital planning
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:54:50excellent financial report mr. mayor canceled inspection on the finance report kappa we go what's up with the water oh yeah every two parts water the basis of all the tests anymore there's a public use and some reason it didn't happen1:59:53the present resolution is to accept the young donations from the lines of the center point energy and cut that to the radios and the only node I had there on the center point they want to actually present the check themselves the council meeting in July others to take care of it2:01:24we have a request to close the city offices when July 3rd with that some coverage for the parks being a busy weekend it does make sense to him somebody doing something in the parks throughout the weekend the crash to build up yet some discussions and fast2:09:23we actually have another request for counsel action that COI did contact me and we agreed could be put in here and F to score be Lauren being out of town next week and Cory having emergency situation come up you need to cover the office has agreed to office out of our office during that time period
  11. A11Recycling center bids

    Open discussion of bids and options for work at the recycling center.

    The council reviewed bid information and options for the recycling center, with several construction and footing/core-drilling figures read into the record and staff offering to circulate copies.

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    • recycling center
    • bids
    Outcome unrecorded
    2:11:51and they only get one bit and that was it one and that's to constructor 44 / 4584 addition to the melon recycling center for seventy four thousand eight and twenty nine they did not provide us with the other two good for Direction work and brought you elders their source for you take today2:12:46okay so they have a couple different things here on this number one they have a square cut big 400 and it must be I think in this what it is or Novus putting a supporting according I would say that's a hundred and twenty nine thousand nine hundred and thirty five now they also have a second option of a court real puddi…
  12. A12Budget workshop scheduling and capital fund discussion

    Discussion of budget workshop dates, proposed budget materials, assessor issues, and possible creation of a blanket capital fund.

    The council discussed setting June and July budget workshop dates, the order for reviewing funds, assessor-related information, and the possibility of creating a blanket capital fund for future transfers.

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    • budget
    • capital fund
    Outcome unrecorded
    2:15:37a budget meeting you Corey I can run and grab it the things I had in there might want to take note but Mary should know is there's several different meanings for the Lions in the next two months and the Heritage so it looks like Wednesday's are the better of the day2:25:25right now you have a June 1917 7:00 p.m. we've estimated do we want to pull forward and put them on the calendar summer people summer calendars get very busy why don't the third is out can I look at again the 17th of July keeping it on Mondays month later that acceptable right now 17th of July Monday no I yeah 7x and I…2:27:28I did talk to mr. football well that and we could essentially create a banach capital fund that's just the blanket happened last that we can transfer money to
  13. A13Culvert replacement cost memo

    The added culvert replacement cost memo item was not discussed because council members noted an agreement about not presenting new information without prior approval.

    Although the culvert replacement cost memo was added at the start, the council did not take it up after members objected that it was new information not approved for discussion under their prior agreement.

    minutes not available in this bundle; transcript states the discussion was not taken up

    • culvert replacement memo
    • agenda procedure
    Outcome unrecorded
    1:57:53there was Mary asked to put the cost of cola replacement on the item here and I you know again it's new information that we certainly can can discuss I was gonna bring it up under the claims history I don't know if this is the same thing you were talking about the evacuation excavation cost replace Jarvis culvert and w…1:58:34but Mary did weird did we not make her did some make a motion that we can't do that and now we're it again changing their roles because I don't get it something some have to abide by the rules that were set for us and the motions that were made but others don't a motion was made that no new information could be present…2:28:52and I apologize for saying we're going to go with a covert discussion but they'll abide by what we agreed on and that's what I have for tonight's meeting so I move to adjourn
  14. A14Adjournment

    Adjournment at about 9:30 p.m.

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    • adjournment
    Outcome unrecorded
    2:29:08so I move to adjourn [Music] 9:30

Motions and votes

1 motion on the record.

  • M1I move to adjourn.

    Exact transcript text

    I move to adjourn

    Passed
    2:29:08so I move to adjourn [Music] 9:30

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  • 0:00 public which is had one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all start a workshop Thursday June 8 can we
  • 0:21 open what they hit mr. Muir was overrated prior to starting with the agenda I'm wondering if we could add one
  • 0:31 item to the agenda under council items that would be 5c and it would be
  • 0:38 discussion of the memo from Jolie regards to the costs associated with the
  • 0:44 culvert replacement thank you
  • 1:11 open public comment normally updates
  • 2:03 just kind of business as usual we're in the fourth year of a five-year permit so nothing has really changed in the past
  • 2:11 four years this is a requirement of our permit with the state and just require that we annually we at least hold one
  • 2:19 public meeting and give the public an opportunity to comment on our stormwater program that's really what what's on the
  • 2:28 agenda for Tuesday night you know I've been to a lot of these meetings I've never once had somebody come and say you know I really interested in this but I
  • 2:37 have some comments trying to educate yourself with the slip
  • 2:49 they're gone through it right now okay
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