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Nowthen Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, October 25, 2022

Planning & Zoning

Tuesday, October 25, 2022 · 7:00 PM

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The Planning & Zoning Commission approved the Bear Lake shoreland setback variance recommendation (with added conditions), denied the amended CUP for the Verde Valley Road cell tower, discussed draft ordinance changes for fencing/screening/landscaping, and adjourned.

What was on the agenda

10 items as recorded in the packet and minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A1Call to Order

    Call to order noted in minutes; no vote recorded.

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)CALL TO ORDER Chair Ames called the meeting to order at 7:05pm.0:42chairman Ames here commissioner bees here did I say that correctly yep okay commissioner Carlson

  2. A2Pledge of Allegiance

    Pledge noted; no vote recorded.

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)Those assembled recited the pledge of allegiance.

  3. A3Roll Call

    Attendance recorded in minutes.

    No action
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)Present: Ames, Carlson, Haapala, Jorgensen, Bies, Absent: Lewis, Pearo Also Present: Liaison Pilon, Planner Stockman, and City Administrator Lehner0:42chairman Ames here commissioner bees here did I say that correctly yep okay commissioner Carlson [0:50–1:03] here commissioner hopla here commissioner Jorgensen here commissioner apparel commissioner Lewis [1:04–1:17] let me repeat on here planter Stockton here and City administrator Landers further

  4. A4Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda (October 25, 2022)

    Approved
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)· Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of October 25, 2022.p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.1:14thank you now we need an approval or amended tonight's meeting agenda on October 25th is [1:23–1:36] someone like to make this motion to approve this tremendous commissioner Carlson I made the motion do we have a second a second [1:33–1:54] commissioner hippola maybe a second uh any discussion CNN I'll call for load al…

  5. A5Approve/Amend meeting minutes of July 26, 2022

    Approved
    p. 21Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)JULY 26, 2022 CALL TO ORDER Chair Ames called the meeting to order at 7:05pm. Those assembled recited the pledge of allegiance. Present: Carlson, Haapala, Jorgensen, Lewis, Pearo Absent: Bies Also Present: Liaison Pilon, Planner Stockman, ap. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 26, 2022. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.1:50approve amend the meeting of July 26 2022 uh minutes [2:09–2:20] motion approve of those minutes in July 22nd 2017. Mr bees made the motion somebody might [2:18–2:31] make a second I'll second it any discussion being none all in Vegas say hi hi [2:30–2:42] okay there's no opposition so it carried

  6. 1PUBLIC HEARING: Variance request at 20885 Engen Blvd (Bear Lake OHWL setback)

    Consider a Variance request at 20885 Engen Blvd. to allow a new residence 100 feet from the OHWL of Bear Lake (50 foot variance, PID 17-33-25-42-0003)

    The commission held a public hearing on a request to build a new home 100 feet from the ordinary high water level of Bear Lake (a 50-foot shoreland setback variance). Members discussed the lot’s irregular shape, wetlands and grading constraints, and the shared driveway/easement situation. The commission voted to recommend approval of the 50-foot variance subject to the planning report conditions and added requirements that staff contact the DNR about acceptance and historic Bear Lake drainage/water flow issues before the City Council meeting, contact the City Attorney about whether a recorded easement/shared driveway agreement can be required, and obtain a demolition permit for removing the old house.

    Commission approved its recommendation with conditions and follow-up tasks (DNR contact, City Attorney contact re: driveway easement, and demolition permit for old house).

    • Polgreen Bear Lake variance
    • 20885 Engen Blvd
    • shoreland variance
    Approved with conditions
    PDFMeeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)1. 7:00 PM: PUBLIC HEARING: Consider a Variance request at 20885 Engen Blvd. to allow a new residence 100 feet from the OHWL of Bear Lake (50 foot variance, PID 17-33-25-42-0003)p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)ITEM 1. PUBLIC HEARING: 20885 ENGEN BLVD; CONSIDER A SHORELAND SETBACK VARIANCE TO ALLOW A NEW RESIDENCE 100 FEET FROM THE OHWL OF BEAR LAKE. PIN 17-33-25-42-0003.p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)BIES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE A 50-FOOT VARIANCE FOR 20885 ENGEN BLVD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING REPORT and: a. Planner Stockman contacts the DNR relative to their acceptance of the proposed Variance request and historic Bear Lake drainage issues/water flow, with response prior to the City C…2:39the first public hearing is a consider a variance request at 20885 England Boulevard to allow a new [2:47–2:58] Resident 100 feet from the ohwl of the Bear Lake 50 foot variants [2:54–3:06] and uh pin number 17 days 33 days 25 days 42 days 00348:10I make a motion that we approve it with the addition of you know the condition that the home be removed okay commission bias as it's strong made the [48:30–48:42] motion somebody want to Second it a second commissioner Carlson segment any discussion Mr chair yes [48:39–48:52] um what commissioner B [Music] the planner …

  7. 2PUBLIC HEARING: Amended CUP request at 5606 Verde Valley Rd (cell tower screening/fencing)

    Consider an Amended Interim Use Permit request at 5606 Verde Valley Road (PID 14-33-25-44-0001) which requires compliance with cell tower regulations (updated since the cell tower was installed) and fencing, landscaping and screening of the ground equipment area per Section 11-8-9 of the Nowthen City Code.

    The commission held a public hearing on an amended CUP request for the existing cell tower site at 5606 Verde Valley Rd to address current code requirements for fencing, landscaping and screening of ground equipment. Staff reported the application remained incomplete and that required plans had not been provided despite months of back-and-forth; residents raised questions about new antennas, tower height/lighting, screening, construction disruption, and noise. The chair initially moved to continue the public hearing to November 22, 2022 but rescinded that motion after discussion; the commission then voted to deny the requested amended CUP.

    Chair initially moved to continue the public hearing to November 22, 2022, but later rescinded and moved to deny; motion to deny carried 5 ayes.

    • Verde Valley cell tower amended CUP
    • 5606 Verde Valley Rd
    • Crown Castle
    • Dish Wireless
    Denied
    PDFMeeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)2. 7:15 PM: PUBLIC HEARING: Consider an Amended Interim Use Permit request at 5606 Verde Valley Road (PID 14-33-25-44-0001) which requires compliance with cell tower regulations (updated since the cell tower was installed) and fencing, landscaping and screening of the ground equipment area per Section 11-8-9 of the Now…p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)ITEM 2. PUBLIC HEARING: 5606 VERDE VALLEY RD; CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED CUP FOR THE CELL TOWER SITE FOR WHICH NEW GROUND EQUIPMENT AND UPGRADES ARE BEING PROPOSED AND FOR WHICH SCREENING/FENCING IS REQUIRED. PIN 14-33-25-44-0001.p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)The public hearing was closed at 8:17PM and CHAIR AMES RESCINDED HIS ORIGINAL MOTION AND MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUESTED AMENDED CUP. SECONDED BY BIES. ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.51:32what we're going to do now is they open the set second public hearing [51:32–51:45] because sit considering the men intern to use permit requested that five six zero six word Valley Road1:07:10CHAIR AMES RESCINDED HIS ORIGINAL MOTION AND MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUESTED AMENDED CUP. SECONDED BY BIES. ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.

  8. 3Discussion: Zoning ordinance changes to fencing, screening and landscaping requirements

    Consider Zoning Ordinance Changes to Fencing, Screening and Landscaping Requirements

    Commissioners and staff discussed a draft reorganization and amendments to city code sections on landscaping, screening, and fencing, focusing on outdoor storage screening (materials and fence height), how to handle agricultural uses within Nowthen’s zoning structure, whether chain-link with slats should be limited to industrial areas, and adding finished metal panel options. They also discussed whether a 100-foot bufferyard requirement is too large in some commercial areas and suggested a possible reduction (such as to 50 feet) with a detailed screening/landscaping plan, addressed turfgrass height and native plantings near structures for fire safety, talked about ditch mowing for visibility, and agreed that requiring irrigation in commercial/industrial areas was not recommended.

    • Zoning ordinance amendments fencing screening landscaping
    Discussion only
    PDFMeeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)3. 7:30 PM: Discussion: Consider Zoning Ordinance Changes to Fencing, Screening and Landscaping Requirementsp. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)ITEM 3. DISCUSSION REGARDING POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE RELATIVE TO FENCING, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.p. 4Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)It was recommended that chain link is only permitted in the industrial areas and add metal panels (prefinished metal) in both commercial and industrial areas with upgraded posts in commercial areas. The required bufferyard of 100 feet was questioned as excessive for some areas, especially in the commercial zones where …p. 4Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)Requiring irrigation in commercial and industrial areas was not recommended.1:15:00we've got some we've got to keep working towards tweaking our ordinance [1:15:09–1:15:20] city called to address certain things and sort of answer questions that [1:15:20–1:15:33] I or we have in the um open-ended questions and how we can [1:15:30–1:15:40] always make this a better document so for starters I took the L…2:15:30Requiring irrigation in commercial and industrial areas was not recommended.

  9. F1Upcoming projects at future meetings

    Gustafson 4-lot Plat on Engen Blvd.; Toft Final Plat on St. Francis Blvd.; Shermer 5-lot plat on Twin Pkwy.

    These were listed as upcoming projects; no action taken.

    • Upcoming projects Gustafson plat
    • Upcoming projects Toft final plat
    • Upcoming projects Shermer plat
    Discussion only
    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)Upcoming Projects at Future Meetings: · Gustafson 4-lot Plat on Engen Blvd. . Toft Final Plat on St. Francis Blvd. · Shermer 5-lot plat on Twin Pkwy.2:23:35so Gustafson played on England I know [2:23:54–2:24:07] they just hired that's on the south side of Bear Lake they just hired or are in the process of [2:24:04–2:24:14] hiring an engineer to move forward they are splitting some lots for family members ... [2:24:43–2:24:56] and then the top final plat we are currently w…

  10. Z1Motion to Adjourn

    Adjourned at 9:27 PM.

    Approved
    PDFMeeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Agenda Packet (2022-10-25)Motion to Adjournp. 4Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY CARLSON TO ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES. The meeting was adjourned at 9:27PM.

Motions and votes

5 motions on the record.

  • M1MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

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    MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

    moved by CARLSON, seconded by HAAPALA

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY HAAPALA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.1:14someone like to make this motion to approve this tremendous commissioner Carlson I made the motion do we have a second a second [1:33–1:54] commissioner hippola

  • M2MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 26, 2022.

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    MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 26, 2022.

    moved by BIES, seconded by AMES

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.

    p. 1Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY AMES TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 26, 2022. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE (5) AYES.1:50Mr bees made the motion somebody might [2:18–2:31] make a second I'll second it

  • M3BIES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE A 50-FOOT VARIANCE FOR 20885 ENGEN BLVD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING REPORT and: a. Planner Stockman contacts the DNR relative to their acceptance of the proposed Variance request and historic Bear Lake drainage issues/water flow, with response prior to the City Council meeting. b. Planner Stockman contacts the City Attorney relative to the shared driveway and whether the City can require a recorded easement and shared easement agreement. c. A demolition permit is obtained for removal of the old house.

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    BIES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE A 50-FOOT VARIANCE FOR 20885 ENGEN BLVD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING REPORT and: a. Planner Stockman contacts the DNR relative to their acceptance of the proposed Variance request and historic Bear Lake drainage issues/water flow, with response prior to the City Council meeting. b. Planner Stockman contacts the City Attorney relative to the shared driveway and whether the City can require a recorded easement and shared easement agreement. c. A demolition permit is obtained for removal of the old house.

    moved by Bies, seconded by Carlson

    Passed

    All in favor, motion carried. Five ayes.

    p. 2Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)BIES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE A 50-FOOT VARIANCE FOR 20885 ENGEN BLVD. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE PLANNING REPORT and: a. Planner Stockman contacts the DNR relative to their acceptance of the proposed Variance request and historic Bear Lake drainage issues/water flow, with response prior to the City C…47:58I make a motion that we approve it with the addition of you know the condition that the home be removed ... [48:39–48:52] the planner contacting the DNR contacting the City attorney relative to [48:49–49:02] the easement um yeah [48:59–49:10] and obtaining a demolition permit for the removal

  • M4CHAIR AMES RESCINDED HIS ORIGINAL MOTION AND MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUESTED AMENDED CUP.

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    CHAIR AMES RESCINDED HIS ORIGINAL MOTION AND MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUESTED AMENDED CUP.

    moved by AMES, seconded by BIES

    Passed

    ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.

    p. 3Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)The public hearing was closed at 8:17PM and CHAIR AMES RESCINDED HIS ORIGINAL MOTION AND MADE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUESTED AMENDED CUP. SECONDED BY BIES. ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.1:12:07I'll re-enter my [1:14:07–1:14:19] emotion I'll make a motion that we deny the requests somebody like seconded [1:14:15–1:14:30] a second okay second by commissioner biastic

  • M5MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY CARLSON TO ADJOURN.

    moved by BIES, seconded by CARLSON

    Passed

    MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.

    p. 4Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting — Minutes (2022-10-25)MOTION BY BIES, SECOND BY CARLSON TO ADJOURN. MOTION CARRIED. FIVE AYES.

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  • 0:20 foreign [Music]
  • 0:29 the first thing we'll do is have work or the
  • 0:34 Scott Medina our city administrator all right
  • 0:42 chairman Ames here commissioner bees here did I say that correctly yep okay commissioner Carlson
  • 0:50 here commissioner hopla here commissioner Jorgensen here commissioner apparel commissioner Lewis
  • 1:04 let me repeat on here planter Stockton here and City administrator Landers further
  • 1:14 thank you now we need an approval or amended tonight's meeting agenda on October 25th is
  • 1:23 someone like to make this motion to approve this tremendous commissioner Carlson I made the motion do we have a second a second
  • 1:33 commissioner hippola maybe a second uh any discussion CNN I'll call for load all in favor the next thing we're going to do is
  • 1:50 approve amend the meeting of July 26 2022 uh minutes
  • 2:02 so long ago I'm trying to get just because they would like to make
  • 2:09 motion approve of those minutes in July 22nd 2017. Mr bees made the motion somebody might
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