Nowthen City Council Workshop meeting, July 5, 2018
City CouncilThursday, July 5, 2018
Agenda
Not on file
What was on the agenda.
One-line summary
The workshop focused on pending land-access and variance issues, code enforcement, tree escrow concerns, staff authority to gather road quotes, training, claims and debt questions, election judges, donations, road closure details, and internal policy items.
What was on the agenda
15 items as recorded in the packet and minutes, each with a short summary of what was at issue.
- Outcome unrecorded
AI-01Amendments to the agenda
The workshop opened with proposed agenda amendments to move two applicants up because they were present.
minutes not available in this bundle
- agenda order
0:45I would proposes that we take the two applicants since they're here they got put on the end of the agenda just because there was an internal mix-up in - Outcome unrecorded
AI-02Utes and Mergestores land, driveway, and wetland mitigation discussion
Discussion continued on land, driveway access, right-of-way, wetland mitigation, culverts, and timing for the Utes and Mergestores.
The workshop reviewed ongoing efforts to settle land, price-per-square-foot, right-of-way transfer, shared driveway, wetland mitigation, and culvert questions so the matter could be ready for a later council meeting.
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- Utes and Mergestores land access
1:21they've been having discussions trying to work out a proper solution it's satisfactory to the ut's2:13we need to get together and talk about how that land transfers do they transfer it to the city so that we have the right-of-way2:54basically just the proper permitting to go through the the wetland mitigation process - Outcome unrecorded
AI-03Clymer accessory building setback and variance discussion
Mr. Clymer discussed his request to reduce an accessory building to 40 by 40 feet and possibly keep part of the work already started despite setback concerns.
Mr. Clymer explained how his accessory building ended up in the wrong location and asked the council to consider a 40-by-40-foot compromise that might preserve part of the construction already started; council members discussed setbacks, tree removal, neighbor impacts, and precedent.
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- Clymer accessory building variance
5:47mr. plumber is just looking for economize you wanting to reduce the size of the building in hopes6:31if we made it a 40 by 40 structure we would have an overall setback from the18:45the council has already decided that the full building would not be possible so we'll let you know the members that are here to talk about an option of the 40 by 40 - Outcome unrecorded
AI-04Code enforcement updates
Staff reviewed several code enforcement updates, including properties on Jasper, 199th, Cleary Road, 189th Lane, 225th, and other cleanup or occupancy complaints.
Staff gave informal updates on multiple open code enforcement matters, including cleanup progress, citations, building permits, tenants leaving a problem property, a wetland access delay, parking complaints, and a reported pole-shed living space.
minutes not available in this bundle
- code enforcement
25:57all right let's go to the code enforcement27:05Dan Larson on Jasper he did come in and pay the citation that was issued previously but he's made no progress in the last month29:40so westrom applied for the building permit he did finally do that so it's just for the lean-to and the35:35mr. Landrieu didn't Paul he admitted he's residing in the pole shed and he needs to be there and - Outcome unrecorded
AI-05Tree removal refund and replacement tree escrow
The council discussed a requested tree removal escrow refund, tree survival, watering bags, warranties, guide wires, and city maintenance responsibilities.
Council members debated whether to release the tree escrow when only some replacement trees had been installed, one tree was missing, watering and staking were still concerns, and the city’s own maintenance responsibilities for new trees and public grounds were unclear.
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- Rademacher tree escrow
38:19let's see the tree removal can we jump in that right away so this is here tree removal refund41:01mr. Rademacher would would like the refund of his escrow there's still obviously missing one tree47:43my concern is we give all this money back and then these strays are dead before the years out56:18I believe the guy wires need to be in the stuff again I don't like to see them - Outcome unrecorded
AI-06Planning and zoning training request
A council training request was reviewed for Planning and Zoning members, council members, and appropriate staff, including League course fees and possible budget sources.
The council reviewed a training proposal for Planning and Zoning members, council members, and appropriate staff, including course fees, a proposed September Planning and Zoning meeting connection, and uncertainty about which budget line should pay for attorney and planner participation.
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- planning and zoning training
1:03:08I wanted to clarify that there's a $30 per League member course fee with1:03:54council strongly encourages council members and appropriate internal staff to complete1:08:52I will contact Cory in regards to budgeting and just where we're at with the expenditures to date and where this money might come from - Outcome unrecorded
AI-07Road and Bridge RCA on gathering quotes and cost information
Council discussed whether staff may gather cost information and quotes for Road and Bridge Committee work without a separate council motion, while distinguishing that from authority to spend funds.
Council members discussed confusion over whether staff needed advance council approval to request quotes or cost estimates for road projects, and the apparent consensus was that gathering information is staff work while actual spending still needs council authorization.
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- road and bridge quotes
- staff authority
1:09:32let's go back up to Rhoda bridge RCA1:11:25there are seven projects right now that we're trying to get some pricing information on so we can use that in nation to prioritize some Road repair1:14:58your question is to can staff go out and and gather information to provide working details so that1:20:02it's a clicking information is staffs responsibility spending money they get authorization - Outcome unrecorded
AI-08Consent agenda, bills and claims, and treasurer’s report
The workshop reviewed consent agenda items, including workshop council meeting minutes, comprehensive plan meeting minutes, bills and claims, and treasurer’s report questions.
During review of the consent materials, council members asked staff to clarify grater debt-service balances and payments, remaining balances on the fire engine, grater, and maintenance building, and how vandalism insurance reimbursements would be tracked back after city payment.
minutes not available in this bundle
- consent agenda
- bills and claims
- treasurer report
- Outcome unrecorded
AI-09Burn item and business screening discussion
Council discussed a burn-related item and screening for a property tied to a prior concrete business approval.
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- business screening
- property conditions
- Outcome unrecorded
AI-10Election judges
Council discussed the election judge list, including a request to remove Daniel Williams from consideration and questions about head judges and precinct staffing.
Council reviewed the election judge list, including a request to remove Daniel Williams based on prior meeting behavior, questions about head judges, precinct coverage, and how early voting and poll pads affected staffing needs.
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- election judges
1:32:08election judges mr. mayor tells my radio let it be the second 1.3 and looking at these names I would like1:33:08the name of Dan William Daniel Williams I just baked based on mr. Williams previous behaviour1:38:15as far as the number of judges that the early voting helps the number keep keeps it makes for a lesser number of voters on that day - Outcome unrecorded
AI-11Resolution accepting Ramsey Lions Club donation
Council discussed a resolution accepting a Ramsey Lions Club donation and possible use of the funds for City Hall repairs or improvements.
Council discussed accepting a Ramsey Lions Club donation and directing it toward City Hall improvements, noted additional Lions-held snowmobile ride funds, mentioned a $5,000 fire equipment item, and reviewed a road-closure request that needed clarification about business access and golf-cart routes.
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- Ramsey Lions donation
- City Hall improvements
- Outcome unrecorded
AI-12Fire equipment amount and road closure RCA
Council discussed another donation or allocation for fire equipment and a road closure RCA connected to a community event and golf cart transportation.
Council discussed accepting a Ramsey Lions Club donation and directing it toward City Hall improvements, noted additional Lions-held snowmobile ride funds, mentioned a $5,000 fire equipment item, and reviewed a road-closure request that needed clarification about business access and golf-cart routes.
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- fire equipment
- road closure
- Heritage Festival
1:41:54and in 1.5 $5,000 to the fire equipment and we have an RCA for closing1:43:16no road closures 199th to the canta to end of iguana going north1:44:14do we have access to the buildings the garage and other buildings on that road1:43:48what other businesses are they running into golf carts back and forth from says the use of golf carts to help - Outcome unrecorded
AI-13Budget meeting dates
Council discussed waiting to schedule budget meetings until absent council members could participate.
Council deferred budget meeting scheduling until absent members could participate, discussed answering staff questions on the personnel policy, and reviewed next steps for council input on a staff training plan and updated job descriptions.
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- budget meetings
- Outcome unrecorded
AI-14Employment and personnel policy comments
Council discussed employee and personnel policy comments and whether staff questions could be answered at the next regular council meeting.
Council deferred budget meeting scheduling until absent members could participate, discussed answering staff questions on the personnel policy, and reviewed next steps for council input on a staff training plan and updated job descriptions.
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- personnel policy
1:46:30which ones are ca for employment and personnel policy comments Reina to staff1:47:20I would suggest that we go through this tomorrow all right on Tuesday we can answer the questions1:48:17if we've not received anything that tells me different members spare seems fair ask for feedback lack of feedback and feedback it's it's assumed approval - Outcome unrecorded
AI-15Training plan and job descriptions
Council discussed training plans and job descriptions, including a prior request that staff provide an updated training plan and job descriptions for council review.
Council deferred budget meeting scheduling until absent members could participate, discussed answering staff questions on the personnel policy, and reviewed next steps for council input on a staff training plan and updated job descriptions.
minutes not available in this bundle
- staff training plan
- job descriptions
Sources
Documents and recordings archived for this meeting, when available.
- Document
City Council Workshop — 2018-7-5 Council Workshop (2018-07-05)
Packet · Thursday, July 5, 2018
5 pages
- Document
City Council Workshop — 2018 07-05 Workshop Minutes (2018-07-05)
Minutes · Thursday, July 5, 2018
9 pages
- Video
Meeting recording
YouTube
Transcript · 686 segments · 1:50:32
Show a sample of the transcript (686 segments, 1:50:32 total)
- 0:34 we have amendments to the agenda tonight matter stop
- 0:45 I would proposes that we take the two applicants since they're here they got put on the end of the agenda just because there was an internal mix-up in
- 0:54 the order and Cory had already know we have to stay here they have to stay here
- 1:02 oh wait we can do that move them up anything else on the agenda no dress
- 1:16 okay well let's start with the UT's
- 1:21 first on the last we hear as the council knows and the other party's invested in
- 1:31 this know they've been having discussions trying to work out a proper solution it's satisfactory to the ut's
- 1:39 to the merge torques into the city and so we're still working on the final details we're looking at how much land where we're talking about
- 1:48 I talked to beauties tonight here and what would like to do is is I've been in touch I got an email from the merge starts this morning out of town until
- 1:57 Monday they would like to meet Monday evening and what we're really looking for is determining how much land we're talking about coming up with a suitable
- 2:06 price per square foot which will set the they read upon a Mollet that has to
- 2:13 transfer and then Liz we need to get together and talk about how that land transfers do they transfer it to the city so that we have the right-of-way
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