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Nowthen City of Nowthen Road & Bridge meeting, February 21, 2017

City Meeting

Tuesday, February 21, 2017

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Agenda

Not on file

What was on the agenda.

Packet

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The supporting materials the board reviewed.

Minutes

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The official record of what happened.

Source missingNo agenda, packet, or minutes are on file for this meeting.

The meeting recording listed below is the only record we have.

One-line summary

The Road & Bridge committee approved the amended agenda and January 17, 2017 minutes, discussed 2017 gravel dust control and gravel spending, and began discussion of a five-year blacktop plan including Old Viking Road.

What was on the agenda

6 items as recorded in the meeting transcript, each with a short summary of what was at issue.

  1. A1Approve amended meeting agenda

    Approved by voice vote; motion carried.

    • meeting_procedure
    Approved
    0:01Approve amended meeting agenda for tonight's meeting. Motion to approve.0:08Second. Yes. Motion carried.

  2. A2Approve January 17, 2017 meeting minutes

    Approved by motion/second; motion carried.

    • meeting_procedure
    Approved
    0:08Motion carried. Approved the January 17th 2017 meeting minutes. Yes.

  3. A3Floor items / public comment (blacktop questions)

    A resident asked to discuss a blacktop-related concern later during the blacktop discussion.

    The committee transitioned to a "Five-year Blacktop plan." A resident, Charlie Zia from Old Viking, said he heard there was a proposal to repave Old Viking and wanted the public to be aware, acknowledging it was early in the process. The discussion begins in the provided transcript segment but is cut off before any decisions or votes are shown.

    No action taken at this point; the resident was asked to wait and tie it into the later blacktop discussion.

    • public_comment
    • blacktop_plan
    Discussion only
    0:23Okay. Floor items. State your name and address. It's about the blacktop, so I don't want to go do it now, or at the end, or do you want to discuss it now? We'll just wait. Why don't we just wait and tie it all in together?

  4. A4Gravel dust control, 2017

    Discussion of past spending, planned miles, product (calcium chloride), effectiveness, and whether to reduce/reshape spending; discussion was ultimately tabled to be reworked and brought back next month.

    The committee reviewed dust control spending and planning, including that $30,000 was budgeted for 2017 and that last year they spent $32,000 over about ten miles, while this year they were planning eight miles and estimated $24,362. Members debated whether calcium chloride dust control is worth the money, with multiple speakers calling it a waste or primarily a "citizen satisfier," and they discussed the idea of cutting the program (for example, down to $15,000) and shifting funds to road improvements—but they did not take final action and instead tabled the matter to be reworked and brought back next month.

    Committee discussed potentially reducing the dust control line item and shifting funds to road improvements, but decided to table it and revisit next month.

    • dust_control
    • budget
    Tabled
    1:05Okay. Gravel dust control, 2017. ...we spent $32,000 on dust control. How many miles did we do last year? Ten.2:26So then, we're planning on doing eight miles this year, so that would be... So that would be 24,000... just over 24,000. $24,362 this year. I know that's in the budget. We budgeted $30,000 for that.4:07And is it always calcium chloride? Yes, that's what we've been using the last couple of years.6:17My opinion, I think it's a waste of money. I am in complete agreement with Joe.34:24I say let's cut it down to $15,000. And the other $15,000 goes into road improvement.37:46Can we hang dust control out here while we move on and we'll come back? Yeah. OK.39:10Table it.39:19Yeah, I'll rework and bring it back next month.

  5. A5Gravel plan / gravel spending

    Discussion of gravel needs, prior-year spending vs budget, mileage, and the importance of continuing gravel work; included discussion of drainage/ditches affecting gravel road conditions and a suggestion for committee road tour/field trip.

    The committee discussed gravel road maintenance needs, emphasizing that gravel work should not be reduced because the roads are "playing catch up" from decades of neglect. They noted that in 2016 the gravel budget was $52,000 but spending was just under $40,000 due to running out of time when trucks had to be readied for snow, and they also discussed how drainage and ditch issues across private property can worsen road conditions. A member suggested doing a summer "field trip" as part of meetings to go out and look at roads together, but no formal action was taken in the portion of the transcript provided.

    No formal action recorded in the available transcript segment.

    • gravel
    • road_maintenance
    • drainage
    • committee_process
    Discussion only
    39:39We spent $39,000 plus on rock last year.41:22In 2016, we budgeted $52,000 for gravel, but only spent just under $40,000.41:31Ran out of time.42:40I won't touch gravel.49:30How do you guys feel about in the summer months, this meeting right here, we spend an hour, hour and a half on a field trip? Going over roads. Go out on the roads and look at them.52:02One of the problems I see, we can't get rid of the water. The ditches go across private property that we have no right to go on to clean them.55:25Randy.

  6. A6Five-year blacktop plan (including Old Viking)

    The committee moved to blacktop planning and a resident (Charlie Zia of Old Viking) stated he heard a proposal to repave Old Viking and emphasized public awareness; discussion began but is cut off in the provided transcript segment.

    The committee transitioned to a "Five-year Blacktop plan." A resident, Charlie Zia from Old Viking, said he heard there was a proposal to repave Old Viking and wanted the public to be aware, acknowledging it was early in the process. The discussion begins in the provided transcript segment but is cut off before any decisions or votes are shown.

    Discussion began; no vote shown in the provided transcript segment.

    • blacktop_plan
    • old_viking
    • public_comment
    Discussion only
    55:31I think we should move on to Blacktop. We'll move on to Blacktop here. Five-year Blacktop plan.56:37I'm Charlie Zia, and I live on Old Viking. And I heard through the grapevine today that there's a proposal to repave Old Viking.

Motions and votes

4 motions on the record.

  • M1Approve amended meeting agenda for tonight's meeting. Motion to approve.

    Passed

    Yes; motion carried.

    0:01Approve amended meeting agenda for tonight's meeting. Motion to approve. Second. Yes. Motion carried.

  • M2Approved the January 17th 2017 meeting minutes.

    Passed

    Yes; motion carried.

    0:08Motion carried. Approved the January 17th 2017 meeting minutes. Yes. Motion. Second. Yes. Motion carried.

  • M3Table it.

    Tabled
    39:10Table it. Yeah, I'll rework and bring it back next month.

  • M4Motion by Perry to transfer $15,000 from dust control and put into road improvement fund.

    moved by Perry

    Withdrawn

    Immediately scratched/not acted on.

    37:27Motion by Perry to transfer $15,000 from dust control and put into road improvement fund. I really don't think you do that right now. Scratch that, Joe. No, we're not there yet. Just scratch that.

Sources

Documents and recordings archived for this meeting, when available.

Show a sample of the transcript (1488 segments, 1:28:38 total)
  • 0:01 Approve amended meeting agenda for tonight's meeting. Motion to approve.
  • 0:08 Second. Yes. Motion carried. Approved the January 17th 2017 meeting minutes. Yes.
  • 0:23 Motion. Second. Yes. Motion carried. Okay. Floor items. State your name and address.
  • 0:34 It's about the blacktop, so I don't want to go do it now, or at the end, or do you want to discuss it now?
  • 0:43 We'll just wait. Why don't we just wait and tie it all in together? Okay. Yeah. Unless you got someplace you gotta go.
  • 0:49 No, nope, not at all. It only takes five minutes to get there. That's okay. Or less. That's okay. It's not going to be contentious, it's just a lot of questions.
  • 0:59 We may not have too many answers, but we don't have too much to go on yet. Okay.
  • 1:05 Okay. Gravel dust control, 2017.
  • 1:11 Is that yours? Yep.
  • 1:35 So, I know the questions that are going to come up, or I'm guessing what the questions that are going to come up.
  • 1:44 And I know when we go to present this, I want to make sure to try to have as many questions answered as possible.
  • 1:56 So I know things that are going to come up are going to be...
  • Showing first 12 segments. Open the YouTube video for the full transcript.

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